Look North West for Your Divorce, Family Law and Private Client Needs
As divorce and family law solicitors based in Holmes Chapel, Cheshire and Whitefield, North Manchester, the latest research from the Legal Services Board was of particular interest to the Evolve Family Law divorce team. At Evolve Family Law we have long thought that ‘‘North is best’’ and the official research seems to agree with us. In this blog we look at the latest Legal Services Board research findings and what they mean for those of you needing divorce, family law or private client help.
Divorce and family law fees
Research published by the UK Legal Services Board on the cost of divorce and Wills has confirmed what many Manchester and Cheshire solicitors thought, namely that legal advice is generally twenty percent cheaper in the north of England compared to legal fees in the south of England. The official research has revealed that divorce firms based in London are on average a third more expensive than those based outside London.
Manchester divorce solicitors say that the Legal Services Board research has confirmed that there really is a north-south divide when it comes to legal fees. Some may question the quality of what you get ‘’up north’’ or think that the mantra that ‘’you get what you pay for’’ must be right but the Legal Services Board research does not indicate that there is any difference in the quality of the family law legal advice that you receive depending on the location or postcode of your divorce and family law solicitor.
Divorce and fixed fees
It is always hard to judge if you are getting value for money with a fixed fee divorce or family law or Will package. However, the Legal Services Board research reveals that divorce law firms who offer fixed prices are on average over a third cheaper than those law firms where estimates of costs are given.
At Evolve Family Law we are committed to transparency on costs and providing as much information online about our fixed fees and pricing. Our cost guide can be accessed here. We also welcome calls to discuss potential legal fees.
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Should I shop around for a divorce solicitor?
The Legal Services Board advises that those with a legal problem shop around and check out potential legal fees. According to the LSB only a fifth of those needing legal advice currently look around and check out fees before committing to instructing a solicitor.
The chair of the Legal Services Board, Dr Helen Phillips has stated:
‘‘Whether buying a home, getting divorced, or making a will, we encourage people to shop around to find a good value deal that meets their needs. Unless they shop around, people risk paying far more than they need to. Where people don’t feel they need to deal with a lawyer face to face, they could make considerable savings by using providers in parts of the country where prices are cheaper.’’
The legal advice price research was commissioned jointly by the Legal Services Board, the Competition and Markets Authority and the Ministry of Justice. The research involved interviewing 1,500 legal businesses in England and Wales and included a spread of legal firms across different types of legal provider and in different locations across the country.
Is a good divorce solicitor all about price?
At Evolve Family Law, whilst we believe in transparency on legal costs and fixed fees, we also recognise that choosing a divorce solicitor or a Will or probate solicitor isn’t just about the legal fees. You need to be able to feel confident that your solicitor will listen to you and will offer you the guidance you need so you can make informed choices, whether that is about a child arrangements order application for your children or a divorce financial settlement.
Evolve Family Law recommend that in addition to looking at online information about price structures that you speak to a solicitor to make sure that you can form a trusting relationship and work together. Don’t worry about distances as divorce, Will and probate solicitors offer appointments by video conferencing, Skype or by telephone appointment. Most family law clients say that speaking to their chosen divorce solicitor in the comfort of their home is more relaxing, and according to the latest Legal Services Board research, it could also result in you achieving considerable savings in legal fees.
How can Evolve Family Law solicitors help you?
For legal help with any aspect of family or private client law, from divorce and separation advice to child arrangements order applications or representation in financial settlement and financial court order proceedings, negotiating a prenuptial agreement or the preparation of your Will or Lasting Power of Attorney call Evolve Family Law or complete our online enquiry form to set up a meeting, video conference or telephone appointment.
Robin Charrot
Sep 28, 2020
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5 minute read
What Happens If You Sign a Prenup & Your Husband Dies?
Every fiancée (or rather their family solicitor) should ask the question, “What happens if you sign a prenuptial agreement and your husband dies?’’ before a prenuptial agreement is signed. This is because although prenuptial agreements record how assets will be divided should a couple separate or divorce, the agreement can also set out how much a spouse will receive if their husband or wife dies. The prenuptial agreement could state that a spouse cannot make a claim against the estate if the will is consistent with the terms of the prenuptial agreement.
Many people query the point of putting in details of what a husband or wife will receive following their spouse's death, in the prenuptial agreement. After all, prenuptial agreements are about separation or divorce and wills are for death and estate planning. However, as Manchester divorce solicitors we normally say that it is a good idea to detail what provision will be made available to a spouse in the event of a death. This is especially the case where there are children from earlier relationships to consider or where a spouse does not plan to leave their entire estate to their husband or wife.
The Case of Mrs Hendry
The widely reported case of Mrs Hendry is an excellent example of why it is important to have a prenuptial agreement and how it can assist if there is a claim against the estate.
Mrs Hendry came from the Philippines to marry her husband. Mr Hendry already had two adult children from a prior relationship, the youngest of whom was twenty-one at the date of Mr Hendry’s death.
The marriage between Mr and Mrs Hendry did not last. Mrs Hendry filed for divorce and asked the family court to give her half of Mr Hendry’s assets. Mr Hendry died before the family court decided how the money should be divided.
Mr Hendry’s will left his estate to his children and Mrs Hendry was left a small pension. Negotiations started between Mrs Hendry and the two children. Mrs Hendry wanted half the estate of her late husband. The children initially offered her what she would have got under the couple’s signed prenuptial agreement. They later offered her a third of the estate.
Agreement could not be reached between the widow and children, resulting in Mrs Hendry making a claim against the estate. Mrs Hendry asked the court to make ‘’reasonable provision’’ for her from the estate under the Inheritance (Provision for Family and Dependants) Act 1975. The judge rejected the claim because Mrs Hendry had not made the application within the six-month deadline from the date of grant of Probate.
What makes the case interesting to Manchester divorce solicitors and lawyers advising on wills and claims against estates is that Mr and Mrs Hendry signed a prenuptial agreement prior to the marriage. The prenuptial agreement said, in the event of a divorce, Mrs Hendry would get a payment of £10,000 and a one-way ticket back to the Philippines.
It is not clear from the media court case reports what, if anything, the prenuptial agreement said about what would happen if Mr Hendry predeceased Mrs Hendry. However, the judge dealing with the estate claim commented on the fact that the prenuptial agreement only made limited financial provision for her.
In the case of Mrs Hendry, she was time barred from making a claim under the Inheritance (Provision for Family and Dependants) Act 1975. However, if she had not been time barred, the fact that she had signed a prenuptial agreement and was separated from Mr Hendry at the time of his death would have been weighed up, together with the circumstances surrounding the signing of the prenuptial agreement and the needs of Mr Hendry’s children.
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What can we learn from the case of Mr and Mrs Hendry?
There are some simple lessons we can take from this particular case:
The importance of signing a prenuptial agreement, and preferably detailing what provision should be made on both divorce and death for a spouse (the estate provision is normally more generous if the couple are living together at the time of the spouse’s death);
The need to review wills after a separation or divorce and, if necessary, amend them and/or provide a letter of explanation for testamentary bequests;
The importance of complying with deadlines if you want to make a claim against an estate and the benefits of taking specialist legal advice.
For help with prenuptial agreements and financial settlements on divorce or claims against estates please contact us
Louise Halford
Jul 26, 2019
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4 minute read
Protecting Money From Parents to Buy a House
According to the BBC news a couple of days ago, the number of first-time buyers relying on mum and dad for the deposit to buy their first home or to climb the property ladder has reached a record high https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39381157 This is not surprising, given that house prices are, on average, seven times salary. The problem is a lot worse in London and the home counties.
As a specialist family finance solicitor, with many years experience in dealing with divorce and cohabitation breakdown, I have seen plenty of examples of where parents have helped their son or daughter to buy a property, only to find that when their son or daughter’s relationship breaks down, half or even more of that money goes to their ex.
Why is mum and dad’s money vulnerable? Many people assume that just because the money has come from their family, or just because the house is bought in their son or daughter’s sole name, the money is protected. This is not true. Partners and spouses can make financial claims over property, even if their name is not on the title deeds and even if they have not paid the mortgage or the bills. Marriage makes the family money even more vulnerable because normally the divorce court will completely ignore the source of funds used to buy the house.
Many people assume that just because the money has come from their family, or just because the house is bought in their son or daughter’s sole name, the money is protected. This is not true. Partners and spouses can make financial claims over property, even if their name is not on the title deeds and even if they have not paid the mortgage or the bills. Marriage makes the family money even more vulnerable because normally the divorce court will completely ignore the source of funds used to buy the house.
Increasingly, I am being asked by clients how they can protect the parents’ money from relationship breakdown. There are a large number of ways of doing it, and they each have their pros and cons. However, the key message is that whatever way you choose, it needs to be agreed and properly documented at the time the money is provided by mum and dad.
The different ways of protecting mum and dad’s money
A loan from mum and dad
Mum and dad co-owning the house
A gift of the deposit
Putting the gift of money into a ‘trust’. The trust can then lend, or give money to the beneficiary of the trust fund to buy the house, or even co-own the house with the beneficiary
Mum and dad own the house completely, but let their son or daughter occupy the house
The best option will depend on the family’s circumstances. That is why it is important to get specialist advice. For example, if parents are wealthy and know that they have a lot of capital that they won’t get through in their lifetimes the option of a gift or trust fund might be the best way to help the family member get on the property ladder and save on inheritance tax. A record of the gift will help evidence it for the tax man and will also help if the son or daughter later starts to live with a partner at the property.
If a family is not wealthy then a loan agreement may be the best way forward. The key to a family loan is that it can be prepared to meet the family’s needs over when the money is paid back and if the loan will charge interest or not.
You need a cohabitation agreement (or a pre-nup)
Whatever option you choose, it is highly advisable to have a cohabitation agreement (or a pre-nup, if son or daughter are definitely going to get married) before the property is bought, which explains what will happen to the house and the money if the relationship does not work.
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A cohabitation agreement or pre-nup are absolutely essential if mum and dad are going to gift the money to their son or daughter because it is not being protected in any other way (e.g. a loan or co-ownership).
If you ask most parents whether they need a written agreement over giving or lending money within the family they say that raising the topic would make them feel uncomfortable. My own view is that it is the parents’ money, it is perfectly reasonable for them to want that money to stay in the family, and it is therefore perfectly reasonable for the condition of that help to be a cohabitation agreement or a pre-nup.
Cohabitation agreements and pre-nups are flexible and bespoke to the couple entering into the agreement. The agreement could say that the non-owning partner won’t have any claims at all on the property or it could say how the joint owners will share the equity in the house if they split up. For example, the agreement could say that mum and dad will be paid back their loan first, with interest, or that the partner whose parent’s provided the deposit will get a bigger percentage of the equity. The important point is that if the options on how to give or lend the deposit are explored and the options of how the couple will own a house are carefully considered and recorded there is far less chance of the family falling out with their son or daughter or their in-laws.
Contact us
If you would like to ask any questions about pre-nup or cohabitation agreements, please contact us. and take a look at our prices online.
Robin Charrot
Mar 30, 2017
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5 minute read
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